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	<title>Comments on: One Puzzle with Two Totally Different Solutions</title>
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	<description>Some things in mathematical logic that I find interesting</description>
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		<title>By: Gauster</title>
		<link>http://xorshammer.com/2008/08/16/two-different-solutions/#comment-151</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed...and what is even more surprising, if I got it right, is that it&#039;s even possible to have all circles to be the same size with the second construction. And here the geometric solution seems impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed&#8230;and what is even more surprising, if I got it right, is that it&#8217;s even possible to have all circles to be the same size with the second construction. And here the geometric solution seems impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: mkoconnor</title>
		<link>http://xorshammer.com/2008/08/16/two-different-solutions/#comment-16</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great observation, I hadn&#039;t thought of that.  It did occur to me that the set-theoretic solution gives the extra information that any family of $latex \kappa$ disjoint circles can be extended to a partition when $latex \kappa &lt; 2^{\aleph_0}$.   The problem of getting a geometric solution even for $latex \kappa = \omega$ or $latex \kappa$ finite seems like it&#039;s probably very hard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great observation, I hadn&#8217;t thought of that.  It did occur to me that the set-theoretic solution gives the extra information that any family of <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Ckappa&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;kappa' title='&#92;kappa' class='latex' /> disjoint circles can be extended to a partition when <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Ckappa+%3C+2%5E%7B%5Caleph_0%7D&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;kappa &lt; 2^{&#92;aleph_0}' title='&#92;kappa &lt; 2^{&#92;aleph_0}' class='latex' />.   The problem of getting a geometric solution even for <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Ckappa+%3D+%5Comega&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;kappa = &#92;omega' title='&#92;kappa = &#92;omega' class='latex' /> or <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Ckappa&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;kappa' title='&#92;kappa' class='latex' /> finite seems like it&#8217;s probably very hard.</p>
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		<title>By: François Dorais</title>
		<link>http://xorshammer.com/2008/08/16/two-different-solutions/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[François Dorais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fun observation! The set-theoretic solution gives a hint to the obvious follow-up question: Why 3? I don&#039;t see how to get that information from the (very clever) geometric solution. It seems odd that the non-constructive solution gives more information than the constructive one. Perhaps the geometric solution is too clever?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fun observation! The set-theoretic solution gives a hint to the obvious follow-up question: Why 3? I don&#8217;t see how to get that information from the (very clever) geometric solution. It seems odd that the non-constructive solution gives more information than the constructive one. Perhaps the geometric solution is too clever?</p>
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